{"id":7382,"date":"2013-08-05T19:14:11","date_gmt":"2013-08-05T19:14:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ramworks.net\/blog\/?p=7382"},"modified":"2015-10-25T19:56:22","modified_gmt":"2015-10-25T19:56:22","slug":"what-difference-does-a-thousand-dollars-make","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/what-difference-does-a-thousand-dollars-make\/","title":{"rendered":"What difference does a thousand dollars make?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In some cases it can make a lot of difference and in some cases no so much.<\/p>\n<p>As luck would have it I just finished testing two different .30-06 rifles for two different NRA publications. A <a href=\"http:\/\/www.weatherby.com\/product\/rifles\/vanguard_2\/backcountry\" target=\"_blank\">Weatherby Back Country<\/a> was tested and reviewed for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americanhunter.org\" target=\"_blank\">American Hunter<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.remington.com\/model783\" target=\"_blank\">Remington&#8217;s 783<\/a> for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americanrifleman.org\" target=\"_blank\">American Rifleman<\/a>. Both articles will be appearing in print soon.<\/p>\n<p>If you follow this blog much at all then you already know <a href=\"http:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/the-truth-about-the-30-06\/\" target=\"_blank\">how wonderfully fond I am of the .30-06. NOT<\/a>! I looked over that small detail when testing these rifles and tried to remain objective.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7383\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7383\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/what-difference-does-a-thousand-dollars-make\/back-country\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-7383\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-7383\" title=\"Back Country\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/Back-Country-300x58.jpg?resize=300%2C58\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"58\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7383\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Weatherby Back Country<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7384\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7384\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/what-difference-does-a-thousand-dollars-make\/model783\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-7384\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-7384\" title=\"Model783\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/Model783-300x61.jpg?resize=300%2C61\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"61\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7384\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Remington 783<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the deal in a nutshell:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The Back Country sells for about $ 1400 and the 783 for about $ 450. The Weatherby weighs 6.42 pounds and the Remington 7.18 pounds.<\/li>\n<li>I&#8217;d rate the Weatherby trigger as better than the 783&#8217;s. It did not have a passive safety and there was no over travel. It broke at 3.00 pounds even. Still, the 783&#8217;s trigger was good and out of the box the pull weight was 3.5 pounds. Both are adjustable but the Weatherby gets the edge.<\/li>\n<li>As for accuracy, the 783 averaged just under 1.5 MOA for five, five-shot groups with three different loads. The Weatherby come in at just a shade under 2.0 MOA. Not sure five-shot groups matter that much to hunters. If I&#8217;d used three shot groups the margin would have been closer; the Weatherby&#8217;s thin barrel heated quick and this seemed to open groups. Advantage &#8211; 783.<\/li>\n<li>From a feel, comfort and ease of use, I&#8217;m going to have to give the advantage to the 783. Felt recoil with the straight stock and SuperCell recoil pad was noticeably less with the 783. But, admittedly, the stock on the Weatherby was of a much higher quality. However, both rifles balanced nicely and worked perfectly.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Regardless, you cannot overlook the fact that if you bought the 783 you would still have a $ 1000 left over for a riflescope. On the other hand, if you really like light rifles, the Weatherby is about 3\/4s of a pound lighter.<\/p>\n<p>Check out the full review of both rifles in upcoming issues of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americanhunter.org\" target=\"_blank\">American Hunter<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americanrifleman.org\" target=\"_blank\">American Rifleman<\/a> magazine. There you can read the interesting back story on the 783 and learn about Weatherby&#8217;s new detachable box magazine.<\/p>\n<p>So, how much difference does $ 1000.00 make? At a restaurant in Canada I saw a $ 1000.00 steak on a menu. No, I did not order it. I&#8217;ve also heard rumors of $ 1000.00 lap dances but have no first hand experience with them. I have however fired more than 400 rounds from these two rifles&#8230;You tell me, which one you would buy?<\/p>\n<p>[poll id=&#8221;15&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In some cases it can make a lot of difference and in some cases no so much. As luck would have it I just finished testing two different .30-06 rifles for two different NRA publications. A Weatherby Back Country was tested and reviewed for American Hunter and Remington&#8217;s 783 for American Rifleman. Both articles will be appearing in print soon. If you &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[2522],"tags":[195,196,197,198],"class_list":["post-7382","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hunt","tag-inexpensive-hunting-rifles","tag-mid-priced-hunting-rifles","tag-remington-783","tag-weatherby-back-country"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5hujZ-1V4","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":7609,"url":"https:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/designed-in-a-deer-camp-a-new-way-to-engineer-hunting-rifles\/","url_meta":{"origin":7382,"position":0},"title":"Designed in a Deer Camp &#8211; A New Way to Engineer Hunting Rifles","author":"gunwriter","date":"October 18, 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"Not all rifles are conceived on a drawing board or on some CAD computer program. 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This has been a long-standing argument among rifle shooters and you\u2019ll find that different gun magazines offer different evaluation standards depending on the gun, chambering and range. 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