{"id":13917,"date":"2016-10-13T20:44:32","date_gmt":"2016-10-13T20:44:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/?p=13917"},"modified":"2021-02-09T15:37:01","modified_gmt":"2021-02-09T15:37:01","slug":"pseudo-scout-kinda-scout-or-just-scout-rifle-does-it-really-matter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/pseudo-scout-kinda-scout-or-just-scout-rifle-does-it-really-matter\/","title":{"rendered":"Pseudo Scout, Kinda Scout, or Just Scout Rifle&#8230;Does it really matter?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-5.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13918\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-5.jpg?resize=800%2C255\" alt=\"brockman-cz-5\" width=\"800\" height=\"255\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-5.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-5.jpg?resize=300%2C96&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>When it comes to Scout Rifles there is a constant argument of what does and does not qualify. Jeff Cooper conceptualized the Scout Rifle so his definition should be the deciding factor. Right?<\/p>\n<p>Sure. Problem is, Cooper\u2019s definition varied over time. And, while there are some aspects of the concept that never changed, others varied. I\u2019ll let others argue which definition is and is not the real definition. The one I\u2019ll present here was taken from what might be the first comprehensive article Cooper ever penned on the Scout Rifle.<\/p>\n<p>Weight: 7 pounds \u2013 3.2 kilos<\/p>\n<p>Length: About 37 inches<\/p>\n<p>Chambering: 308 Winchester, 243 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington<\/p>\n<p>Action: Bolt-Action<\/p>\n<p>Barrel: 18.5 inches (22 inches on 243 Winchester)<\/p>\n<p>Accuracy: Two inches (Two MOA)<\/p>\n<p>Sights: Ghost ring rear, ramped, square post front.*<\/p>\n<p>Optics: A 2x compact glass of ten-inch eye relief, mounted low over the bore.*<\/p>\n<p>Trigger: A fine trigger.<\/p>\n<p>Stock: Classic, without bumps, flanges, notches, or cheekpiece, high enough at comb to support a low scope line, and a rounded heel.<\/p>\n<p>Sling: Loop style.<\/p>\n<p>Sling Swivels: Pachmayr flush design<\/p>\n<p>* A scout rifle should be equipped with both iron and optical sights.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13919\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-1.jpg?resize=800%2C370\" alt=\"brockman-cz-1\" width=\"800\" height=\"370\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-1.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-1.jpg?resize=300%2C139&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Scream, rant, throw rocks, and call me names all you want; these are Cooper\u2019s words not mine.<\/p>\n<p>So, given this definition, the rifle featured here is not a true Scout Rifle. However, this rifle is, any way you look at it, a damned fine general-purpose, utility rifle. It came about because of the <a href=\"http:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/the-2016-scout-rifle-conference-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">2016 Scout Rifle Conference<\/a> at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gunsite.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Gunsite Academy<\/a>. The top student of the conference, who goes by \u201cSplithoof\u201d to protect his identity \u2013 he is not a terrorist or an illegal, just a guy engaged in an occupation that necessitates discretion \u2013 won a custom scout mount job from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.brockmansrifles.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Brockman\u2019s Custom Rifles<\/a>. The rifle he chose to customize was a <a href=\"http:\/\/cz-usa.com\/product\/cz-527-carbine-223-rem\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">CZ model 527 in 7.62 X 39<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-4.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13920\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-4.jpg?resize=800%2C353\" alt=\"brockman-cz-4\" width=\"800\" height=\"353\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-4.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-4.jpg?resize=300%2C132&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.brockmansrifles.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Brockman<\/a> added custom <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talleymanufacturing.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Talley scope bases<\/a> to the rifle\u2019s barrel and installed his trademark protected front sight and fully adjustable ghost ring rear sight. I must say the work, like all the work I\u2019ve seen from Jim Brockman, is impeccable.<\/p>\n<p>With a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.leupold.com\/hunting-shooting\/scopes\/fixed-power-riflescopes\/fx-ii-scout-ier-2-5x28mm\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Leupold Scout Scope<\/a> and an empty magazine, the rifle weighs exactly 6 pounds, 9.1 ounces and is 36.5 inches long. It is an absolute joy to carry, handle, and shoot. And, its plenty accurate and completely capable of better than 2 MOA. Doing some snap shooting drills I managed three hits in a row on a 15 inch steel plate at 100 yards. My times were 1.88, 1.76, and 1.58 seconds for an average of 1.74 seconds. This might not be impressive to you but given my abilities, I consider it a very good performance. And, snap shooting is\u00a0one of the fortes of a Scout Rifle.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-3.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13921\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-3.jpg?resize=800%2C475\" alt=\"brockman-cz-3\" width=\"800\" height=\"475\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-3.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-3.jpg?resize=300%2C178&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>My only real complaint with the rifle, from a Scout Rifle standpoint, is that the comb of the stock is a bit low to work with an optical sight. This of course is no fault of Splithoof or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.brockmansrifles.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Brockman<\/a>; it is just a fact. Nonetheless, I covet this little rifle and for a man \u2013 scout \u2013 operating in West Virginia, it is unquestionably all the rifle one would ever need.<\/p>\n<p>What I hope you takeaway from this is that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.brockmansrifles.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jim Brockman<\/a> is an ideal source for Scout Rifle conversions. Yeah, I know, this is not a true Scout Rifle but you know what, based on Cooper\u2019s criteria, hardly anything else is either. Call it whatever you want, I could care less.<\/p>\n<p>Now all I have to do is find something to trade Splithoof for this little gem. I gotta find something <em>to trade<\/em> because I have no cash. Do you know how much auto insurance costs for a 16-year-old boy?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-2.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13922\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-2.jpg?resize=800%2C538\" alt=\"brockman-cz-2\" width=\"800\" height=\"538\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-2.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Brockman-CZ-2.jpg?resize=300%2C202&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When it comes to Scout Rifles there is a constant argument of what does and does not qualify. Jeff Cooper conceptualized the Scout Rifle so his definition should be the deciding factor. Right? Sure. Problem is, Cooper\u2019s definition varied over time. And, while there are some aspects of the concept that never changed, others varied. I\u2019ll let others argue which definition is &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[2509,2522,3024,2500,1],"tags":[2723,1101,111,1507,1980],"class_list":["post-13917","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-defense","category-hunt","category-scout-rifles","category-shooting","category-uncategorized","tag-7-62x39","tag-cz-527","tag-gunsite-academy","tag-jim-brockman","tag-scout-rifles"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5hujZ-3Ct","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":16630,"url":"https:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/analysis-of-the-scout-rifle-part-1\/","url_meta":{"origin":13917,"position":0},"title":"Analysis of the Scout Rifle: Part 1","author":"gunwriter","date":"February 11, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"This is the first in a series of articles concerning Scout Rifles. It could be considered an addendum to my book, The Scout Rifle Study. The Problem with the Scout Rifle Concept As those who frequent the Scout Rifle forum and its similar Facebook page: Jeff Cooper\u2019s Scout, know, there\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Latest&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Latest","link":"https:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/category\/latest\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/6-head.jpg?fit=1200%2C390&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/6-head.jpg?fit=1200%2C390&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/6-head.jpg?fit=1200%2C390&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/6-head.jpg?fit=1200%2C390&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/6-head.jpg?fit=1200%2C390&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":16758,"url":"https:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/analysis-of-the-scout-rifle-part-6\/","url_meta":{"origin":13917,"position":1},"title":"Analysis of the Scout Rifle: Part 6","author":"gunwriter","date":"March 14, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"This is the sixth and final part in a series of articles concerning the Scout Rifle. 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