{"id":13612,"date":"2016-07-07T20:56:11","date_gmt":"2016-07-07T20:56:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/?p=13612"},"modified":"2021-02-09T15:39:02","modified_gmt":"2021-02-09T15:39:02","slug":"the-patriot-scout-sneak-peek","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/empty-cases.com\/blog\/the-patriot-scout-sneak-peek\/","title":{"rendered":"The Patriot Scout- Sneak Peek"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"MPS-2\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Some who operate in the shadowy world of the scout rifle elite have proposed nothing new or worthwhile would come of the 2016 Scout Rifle Conference, which starts next week at Gunsite Academy<\/a>. Speculations have included the notion that the event\u00a0is nothing more than an attempt to legitimize a rewrite of Coopers\u2019 Scout Rifle definition.<\/p>\n

Neophobia in the gun world is at its height and so is the \u201cnot invented here\u201d or \u201cI didn\u2019t think of it\u201d mindset. And,\u00a0negativity on the Internet in blogs, videos, and\u00a0talk forums seems to be the wave of the future. The best way to obtain web site traffic is to either talk bad about products or people,\u00a0or be well endowed. Since few gun folk have a set of double Ds to show off, bashing someone or something is the most prevalent course of action to illustrate your assumed genius or to get \u201chits.\u201d<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve written negatively about some things and some people but it\u2019s rare. I prefer to write about the stuff I actually use that works, and the people I know who have a positive story. Due to the drama it does not create, this does not drive a lot of web traffic. But, I do this because the stuff I use that works, and the people I know who are impressive, are the things I’m passionate about and familiar with.\u00a0(Here’s a tip for aspiring gun scribes: Don’t attempt to write with authority on\u00a0things you know nothing\u00a0about.) That’s why I\u00a0write about things I know and consequently, it’s why I don\u2019t have the time or interest to investigate crappy guns or folks I don\u2019t like.<\/p>\n

Enough of the soapbox rant; the purpose of this journal entry is to announce that the 2016 Scout Rifle Conference has already produced something new and exciting and it does not even start until Sunday. I collaborated with Jerry Dove of Dove Custom Guns<\/a> to create an affordable Scout Rifle to show\u00a0at the Conference and it is now complete.<\/p>\n

\"MPS-3\"<\/a><\/p>\n

This project rifle was based on the\u00a0Mossberg Patriot Youth Super Bantam Rifle<\/a> chambered for the 308 Winchester. (We chose the Mossberg Patriot<\/a> due to its affordability, its excellent five-round detachable magazine, and the fact that my son and\u00a0I used a Patriot with great success in Africa.) Our goal was to create a 3.0 kilo (6.61 pound) Scout Rifle that cost less than $ 1000.00 all up. We\u00a0did not get there but as Cooper would attest if he was still with us, that\u2019s no surprise. The 3.0-kilo limit rests somewhere near the realm of unobtainum.<\/p>\n

We did get very close. This rifle measures 34.75 inches long, is equipped with XS sights<\/a>, a Timney<\/a> trigger, an Andy\u2019s Leather Biothane Rhodesian Sling<\/a>, and a Leupold Scout Scope<\/a> in excellent all-steel Talley Rings<\/a>. All up it weighs 6.9 pounds (3.13 kilos.) As for cost – with scope – here is the\u00a0breakdown:<\/p>\n

Rifle: $ 280.00,\u00a0XS Sights: $ 100.00,\u00a0Timney Trigger: $ 115.00,\u00a0Andy\u2019s Leather Biothane Sling: $ 65.00,\u00a0Leupold Scout Scope: $ 300.00,\u00a0Talley Rings: $ 160.00,\u00a0Sub Total: $ 1020.00,\u00a0Custom Scout Scope Mounting: $ 350.00<\/p>\n

TOTAL: $ 1370.00<\/p>\n

What is not reflected in the above price is the diet Jerry Dove put this rifle on. By shortening the barrel to 16 and 5\/16 inches and by removing some unneeded weight in other locations, he managed to shave about 6 ounces. I asked Dove what he would charge to do that again and he said, \u201cYou cannot afford it.\u201d<\/p>\n

\"MPS-4\"<\/a><\/p>\n

I\u2019ll follow up with a full report on how it performed. (I have not shot this rifle yet.) In the mean time, if you\u2019re interested you can have one almost like it, but about six ounces heavier, for around $ 1000.00.\u00a0That price includes the cost of the rifle but not the scope.\u00a0I hope you\u2019ll notice that if all you desire is the ability to mount a scout scope to your\u00a0Mossberg Patriot, Dove can make that happen for $ 350.00 plus the Talley rings. The Mossberg LBA trigger is pretty darn good out of the box and the way Dove executes the scout scope mount, you’ll still be able to mount a traditional riflescope too.<\/p>\n

Stay tuned!<\/p>\n

\"MPS-7\"<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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